This news about RF slumming with Francesca

[fiennesite]

UGHHHH....I really hate it when pathetic men or women for that matter go back to their pathetic previous love because they are A. Familiar, B. Stupid enough to take them back, C. have a house and he doesn't...who knows...

I really do hope these reports are some kind of plant in the press by some desperate PR exec working for the Francesca camp. Or maybe he's just ready to settle down and be a good boy now for his mommy.

Sorry, I'm feeling a bit mean today.

[Lety15]

Mary K,

you're not mean. You simply express your feelings of disappointment... which are also mine. Yes, the whole thing is simply pathetic....

Let's hope there's nothing true, in these reports...

[fiennesite]

Linda,
I know it's hard. I went through a phase like your'e describing a couple years ago...when I gave up the big forum, everything I'd started for RF and his fans because I was losing my faith in the man. But then when I decided to start this place on Ning...I decided, just like the tagline says...love him no matter what. The man has got major issues, mommy issues, sex issues, you name it...though I personally would have volunteered to have his child, I'm pretty glad he's chosen thus far not to duplicate the gene pool that created his behaviors and neurosis. But frankly we all have something, and we can only hope this thing w/FA is a flash in the pan, like I say, he's slumming, prolly no better piece of A** in London at the moment. It sounds like either the newspaper is stretching the truth or an FA rep/friend planted it in the press to get her some PR. Until I see a photo of him snogging her, and that WILL make me throw up...I'm still a fan...haha.

It is hard sometimes...please keep your stuff from Nostalgia factory...if all else fails and he turns you off, you can auction it on Ebay next year when he's more popular.

;-) MK

[Liza]

Before I say anything else, let me say this... the following are my thoughts, just expressing mine as others have theirs without judgment of anyone else's thoughts or feelings. I'm also not excusing Ralph. I just refuse to judge him. My life experience has been one of seeing the best of people screw up in the worst of ways, myself included. I've also been on the receiving, as well as the giving end of judgment and criticism. The latter of which I am truly sorry for and have made a conscious decision to no longer do.
Ralph Fiennes is no better or worse than any other average human being. He's just a talented artist and famous celebrity. This makes him a target. I refuse to make his personal life my source of entertainment. To me, he is simply a very talented artist and, whatever faults and screw-ups, a sweet man. He is someone it has enriched my life to know and through whom I have met some rather wonderful friends. This opinion is unwavering, no matter how foolish it might seem. I choose to believe in the best in and for him. Always will.

[Liza]

I hope that he'll be good to himself and take care of himself. That hopefully one day he'll have the kind of relationship where he can love and be loved completely. Everyone should have that.
And as I said earlier, my statements are just my own thoughts. Its not my intention to offend anyone. If I did so, I'm sorry.

[fiennesite]

Haha Brita and welcome to the network:-)

I'm sorry but I think half the fun of being a fan IS talking about what he could really be like in real life. I think that we're all entitled to our own fantasies and rages if need be...it's all just in the name of diversion...which is his business is it not...okay and art.

One of the things that always annoyed me about other forums (after I stopped administering) was that the places become a den of snobs who don't talk about, let alone judge Ralph. I think we all have some complex feelings when we admire someone, but they are a total fuck-up in some areas of their lives. It's not so much judging, but probably admitting...gosh...I probably could never be with that bloke, even if I had the chance...he's a male slut, who craws back to his mommy figure everytime he needs a cuddle...ughh...sad to think there is no way he could be trusted, etc...but oh well.

So everyone, feel free to judge, not judge, be mad, be happy for them, whatever, I'm just glad we can all feel FREEEEE to say which way we feel here...that's what this is all about;-)

I hope he is just getting his house painted...hehe...I'd rather him sleep around then go back to FA...can't have our man in a committed relationship again can we? Wouldn't that just spoil ALL our stage door, takes us back to his suite fantasies?
hehehehe
Mary K.

[Liza]

Freedom of speech is a lovely thing and a right to be protected. There are other lovely things that can coexist well with this freedom. Things like dignity, respect, compassion and consideration - the whole "treat others as you'd like to be treated" thing. Its truly wonderful.

The lovely thing about imagination and fantasy is that its not dependent on reality to be enjoyed. One person can wish another well and happy in whatever course or direction they choose in life and still be free to indulge in their wildest imaginings. That's a good thing.

[A1C]

That's really cool of you, Liza! I really appreciate your insights. I admit I was perplexed at some of the comments made. Some of the posters are coming off like their conjectures and presumptions are fact. I have to wonder how they can be so sure everything they're saying is true. Are they having Ralph tailed or his living quarters bugged? How can they be sure about something based on rumors? No offense, but I also noticed some armchair pseudo-psychoanalysis going on and I find that type of thing to be judgmental and snobbish. How can they presume to know the whole being of someone they don't have any familiarity with on a personal level? The same thing goes for their interpersonal relationships. Unless the parties involved personally divulge all the ins and outs, they really can't be sure what's going on.

[Roddy]

It's none of my business what he's doing, but I feel a bit disturbed for this news! I mean, does he have issues with his mother or something? I read that he grew up in a family that loved him most, so what is his problem? He could be with any other woman he chooses, but he's staying with a sea hag! For what?!
I think they should make a movie on that, something like Spider! It would be great.
Anyway, he is free to do what he likes. Wish him all the best.

[fiennesite]

I think people call it "mommy issues" because he hooked up with FA right after his mother died. And before he divorced Alex Kingston. FA was playing his mother in Hamlet at the time and a bunch of critics said that they were definitely mastering the oedipal undertones of that aspect of the play...that basically Hamlet had the hots for his mom...or Ralphie had the hots for an actress 20 years his senior. It's too much of a coincidence that it happened right after his mum died...and who knows....it seemed from all I've read that he and Alex were trying to have kids and it wasn't working, etc...so she offered him something he needed, freedom from the pressures of making babies, and maybe an older, wiser presence. I'll admit FA was beautiful in her hayday, and he may decide she's his main squeeze for life, but I like others don't like her methods...she's been very wiley with her ex's....oh well. Yes, let's wish him the best...good point;-)

[Roddy]

I never knew that he hooked up with Francesca right after his mother's death, though I've read about the oedipal undertones of their performance. That's even more complicated, really.
As for children, I think he doesn't love them.
Just wonder, can I write a novel about this without getting him mad at me and dragging me in th courts?
"^^ A bit odd, I know.
Thank you for this amazing explanation.
Hope you and him the best.

[trugannini]

He 'hooked up' with Francesca Annis 3 years after his mother's death.
Didn't he? Yes! How can we know what goes on in someone's mind?
I think she was very brave to take him on, as she had been happily married
for 20 years or so. I bet he proved irresistible..... I love him for his work
and how he likes to remain private....leave well alone, and wish him happiness
I don't care what he does in his private life - poor man.......he is healthy, has a great
body, clear eyes and a marvellous brain.....he must be doing something right. :)

[markey]

I agree. Let him alone! Francesca Annis is one of the great stage and screen actresses in Briton; also, a great beauty. I think their relationship is in keeping with the way he lives his life; except, the only negative here is he can't always keep his zipper closed.